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[Bam]

MoX, Mar 14 2006, 04:36 PM, pasakë:

Ziurejau wcw world war 3. Pamaciau kaip ateina ultimo dragon. Gal kas galetu isvardinti kokius ten titlus turejo (turbut daugelis japonijos)?
Ir isvis noriu paklausti ar daznas atvejis ,kad vienas zmogus turetu tiek daug dirzu?

Paziurek i XEUS avatara

[MoX]

Bam, Mar 14 2006, 02:39 PM, pasakë:

Paziurek i XEUS avatara

Taip maciau ,bet i mano klausima nieko tai neatsako.

[MoX]

Raiden, Mar 15 2006, 05:19 PM, pasakë:

Kas atlieka raw ir sd themus?

Sd Drowning pool - rise up
raw the union undergound - across the nation

[XEUS]

MoX, Mar 14 2006, 06:36 PM, pasakë:

Ziurejau wcw world war 3. Pamaciau kaip ateina ultimo dragon. Gal kas galetu isvardinti kokius ten titlus turejo (turbut daugelis japonijos)?
Ir isvis noriu paklausti ar daznas atvejis ,kad vienas zmogus turetu tiek daug dirzu?

Kad vienu metu turėtų tiek diržų paprastai nėra dažnas atvejis, nors kai kurie dabartiniai indie wrestleriai nešioja po 3-4 titulus įvairiose indie lygose, jei kalbant apie apskritai kiek diržų kas yra daugiausiai turėjęs (ne vienu metu) čia rekordininkas Jerry "The King" Lawler, kuris turėjo apie 200 diržų, o dar ir dabar laimi ir nešioja, kai kurių mini lygų diržus (tiems kas nežino jis vis dar aktyviai wrestlina mažose indies lygose), Ultimo Dragon turimas J Crown (taip vadinamas 8 titulų rinkinukas, beje jis sukaliojosi, kurį laiką taip pat kaip Triple Crown - kaip vienas titulas, kurį sudaro ne vienas diržas) ir WCW Cruiserweight laimėtas titulas lėmė, kad jis turėtų vienu metu 9 diržus. Taigi, kad wrestleriai turėtų 8 titulus retas atvejis (5 tik turėjo J-Crown), o 9 jau rekordas (nors manau, kad yra jau sumuštas tas rekordas neoficialiai, tačiau lyginant su diržų svoriu (t.y. kokio lygio tie visi diržai J Crown yra ypatingas titulas (pvz. jį sudaro WWF Light Heavyweight Title, kuris buvo praktiškai nepriklausomas nuo WWF/WWE ir turėjo ypatingą aurą, nes WWF/WWE jo ir nematė praktiškai - jis nebūdavo beveik niekada ginamas JAV, tik vėliau jis vėl buvo parsivežtas ir jau WWF/WWE sunaikino jo įvaizdį) , jį galima prilyginti Triple Crown.
Jį sudaro:
NWA World Welterweight Champion
WWA World Junior Light Hravyweight Champion
UWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Champion
WWF World Light Heavyweight Champion
British Commonwealth Junior Heavyweight Champion
International Junior Heavyweight Champion
NWA World Junior Heavyweight Champion
IWGP World Junior Havyweight Champion

[Fortaz]

XEUS, Mar 16 2006, 12:52 PM, pasakë:

Kad vienu metu turėtų tiek diržų paprastai nėra dažnas atvejis, nors kai kurie dabartiniai indie wrestleriai nešioja po 3-4 titulus įvairiose indie lygose, jei kalbant apie apskritai kiek diržų kas yra daugiausiai turėjęs (ne vienu metu) čia rekordininkas Jerry "The King" Lawler, kuris turėjo apie 200 diržų, o dar ir dabar laimi ir nešioja, kai kurių mini lygų diržus (tiems kas nežino jis vis dar aktyviai wrestlina mažose indies lygose), Ultimo Dragon turimas J Crown (taip vadinamas 8 titulų rinkinukas, beje jis sukaliojosi, kurį laiką taip pat kaip Triple Crown - kaip vienas titulas, kurį sudaro ne vienas diržas) ir WCW Cruiserweight laimėtas titulas lėmė, kad jis turėtų vienu metu 9 diržus. Taigi, kad wrestleriai turėtų 8 titulus retas atvejis (5 tik turėjo J-Crown), o 9 jau rekordas (nors manau, kad yra jau sumuštas tas rekordas neoficialiai, tačiau lyginant su diržų svoriu (t.y. kokio lygio tie visi diržai J Crown yra ypatingas titulas (pvz. jį sudaro WWF Light Heavyweight Title, kuris buvo praktiškai nepriklausomas nuo WWF/WWE ir turėjo ypatingą aurą, nes WWF/WWE jo ir nematė praktiškai - jis nebūdavo beveik niekada ginamas JAV, tik vėliau jis vėl buvo parsivežtas ir jau WWF/WWE sunaikino jo įvaizdį) , jį galima prilyginti Triple Crown.
Jį sudaro:
NWA World Welterweight Champion
WWA World Junior Light Hravyweight Champion
UWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Champion
WWF World Light Heavyweight Champion
British Commonwealth Junior Heavyweight Champion
International Junior Heavyweight Champion
NWA World Junior Heavyweight Champion
IWGP World Junior Havyweight Champion

Kingas 200 dirzhu?
Gal 20?

[`MalioK`]

Raiden, Mar 16 2006, 09:56 PM, pasakë:

Nea tikrai ~200 juk XEUS pries kelis puslapius juos visus isvardino.

Tiesiog Fortaz pastebejo, tai, kad XEUS pasake ne "title reign'u", o "dirzu" - cia kiek skirtingi dalykai;) O title reign'u Jerrys tikrai turejo rekordini skaiciu, bet kiek as zinau ju reges buvo ne ~200, o ~100 (114) Gal XEUS turi platesnius informacijos saltinius.

[Fortaz]

Jo, ash butent dirzhus pagalvojaw. Kad 200 jus per visas amerika, o ypach tose lygose kur Kingas kovoja nesukrapshtysi;)

[XEUS]

Fortaz, Mar 17 2006, 12:50 AM, pasakë:

Jo, ash butent dirzhus pagalvojaw. Kad 200 jus per visas amerika, o ypach tose lygose kur Kingas kovoja nesukrapshtysi;)

Bach, nežinau kuo tikėti http://www.wrestlevi...aq/lawler.shtml - daugiau nei 200, http://en.wikipedia....ki/Jerry_Lawler - 112 (bet čia tikrai per mažai, nes kažkur skaičiau jis dar kelis titulus neseniai laimėjo mini lygose),
Tri-State Heavyweight title winning a Battle Royal (September 1971);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Tag Team titles w/Jim White defeating Jackie Fargo & Jerry Jarrett (March 29, 1973);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Tag Team titles w/Jim White defeating Jackie Fargo & Jerry Jarrett (April 18, 1973);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Tag Team titles w/Jim White defeating Tojo Yamamoto & Jeff Jarrett in a Tournament (1973);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Tag Team titles w/Jim White defeating Jerry Jarrett & Johnny Marlin (July 7, 1973);
United States Junior Tag Team titles w/Steve Kovac (May 4, 1974);
NWA Southern Junior Heavyweight title (renamed Southern Heavyweight title) defeating Tommy Gilbert (1974);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Robert Fuller (October 23, 1974);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Tag Team titles w/Tojo Yamamoto (November 1974);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Tag Team titles w/Stan Frazier (December 1974);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bob Armstrong (October 7, 1975);
NWA (Mid America) United States Tag Team titles w/Jackie Fargo defeating Phil Hickerson & Dennis Condrey (November 19, 1975);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bob Armstrong (December 15, 1975);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating ??????? (1975);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Tag Team titles w/Playboy Frazier (April 1976);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Gorgeous George Jr. (July 1976);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Jack Brisco (1976);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Tag Team titles w/Gorgeous George Jr. (1977);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Rocky Johnson (April 1977);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bob Armstrong (1977);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Paul Orndorff (1977);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Jimmy Valiant (October 1977);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Mr. Wrestling (November 21, 1977);
NWA (Mid-America) Southern Heavyweight title defeating Jimmy Valiant (December 5, 1977);
NWA/AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Bill Dundee defeating Dennis Condrey & Phil Hickerson (1978);
NWA/AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Mongolian Stomper defeating Jos LeDuc & Jean Louie (1978);
NWA/AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Bill Dundee defeating ???? & ???? (1978);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Don Fargo (December 4, 1978);
NWA/AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Bill Dundee defeating Toru Tanaka & Mr. Fuji (June 4, 1979);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bill Dundee (October 15, 1979);
CWA (Continental Wrestling Association) World title defeating Billy Graham (November 12, 1979);
NWA/AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Bill Dundee defeating ???? & ???? (1981);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Jimmy Valiant (February 15, 1981);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating defeating ????? (1981);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Dream Machine (Troy Graham) (August 24, 1981);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Dutch Mantell (January 18, 1982);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Dutch Mantell (Match 1, 1982);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Dutch Mantell (April 1, 1982);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Kendo Nagasaki (1982);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Kimala (August 9, 1982);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Nick Bockwinkel (November 1982);
CWA/AWA International title defeating Austin Idol (March 7, 1983);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bill Dundee (June 6, 1983);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Man Mountain Link (July 4, 1983);
CWA/AWA International title defeating Ken Patera (July 5, 1983);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bill Dundee in a Tournament Final (September 19, 1983);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Jesse Ventura (October 3, 1983);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Jesse Ventura (November 1983);
NWA/AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Jos LeDuc defeating The Zambuie Express (March 12, 1984);
CWA Heavyweight title defeating Randy Savage (April 12, 1984);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Lord Humongous (Mike Stark) (May 21, 1984);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating King Kong Bundy (November 12, 1984);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Eddie Gilbert (February 12, 1985);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Randy Savage (July 3, 1985);
CWA Heavyweight title defeating Rick Link (July 15, 1985);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bota the Witch Doctor (July 29, 1985);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Tarras Bulba (September 6, 1985);
NWA/AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Austin Idol defeating Dutch Mantell & Bill Dundee (December 9, 1985);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bill Dundee (December 21, 1985);
Polynesian Pacific title defeating Lars Anderson (January 25, 1986);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bill Dundee (April 8, 1986);
NWA/AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Giant Hillbilly defeating The MOD Squad (June 23, 1986);
CWA/AWA International title defeating Bill Dundee (July 19, 1986);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bam Bam Bigelow (July 28, 1986);
NWA/AWA Southern Tag Team titles w/Big Bubba defeating Don Bass & Dirty Rhodes (aka Roger Smith) (November 3, 1986);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Austin Idol (April 20, 1987);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Austin Idol (June 8, 1987);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Brickhouse Brown (July 13, 1987);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Don Bass (August 31, 1987);
AWA World Tag Team titles w/Bill Dundee defeating Soldat Ustinov & Doug Somers (October 11, 1987);
AWA World Tag Team titles w/Bill Dundee defeating Hector Guerrero & Dr. D (October 26, 1987);
NWA/AWA Southern Heavyweight title defeating Bobby Jaggers (November 21, 1987);
AWA World Heavyweight title defeating Curt Hennig (May 9, 1988);
World Class Heavyweight title defeating Kerry von Erich (December 13, 1988);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title (AWA & WCCW Unified into one title) (December 13, 1988);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Master of Pain (April 25, 1989);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Soultaker (November 6, 1989);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Texas Heavyweight title defeating Kerry von Erich (December 12, 1989);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating King Cobra (January 8, 1990);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Jimmy Valiant (March 12, 1990);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Jimmy Valiant (May 5, 1990);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Austin Idol (October 8, 1990);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Tag Team titles w/Jeff Jarrett defeating The Fabulous Ones (February 4, 1991);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Terry Funk (March 11, 1991);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Awesome Kong (August 12, 1991);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating The Dragon Master (September 2, 1991);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Kamala (December 2, 1991);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Kamala (May 4, 1992);
GWF (Global Wrestling Federation) World Heavyweight title defeating Eddie Gilbert (June 8, 1992);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Tag Team titles w/Jeff Jarrett defeating The Moondogs (June 29, 1992);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Tag Team titles w/Jeff Jarrett defeating The Moondogs (Spot/Cujo) (July 20, 1992);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Tag Team titles w/Jeff Jarrett defeating The Moondogs (Spot/Cujo) (August 17, 1992);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Todd Champion (November 2, 1992);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Koko B. Ware (December 14, 1992);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Owen Hart (July 5, 1993);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Tatanka (September 20, 1993);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Jeff Jarrett (December 20, 1993);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Eddie Gilbert (February 7, 1994);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Eddie Gilbert (March 25, 1994);
SMW (Smokey Mountain Wrestling) Heavyweight title defeating Dirty White Boy (January 28, 1995);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Sid Vicious (February 6, 1995);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Razor Ramon (May 5, 1995);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Heavyweight title defeating Tex Slazenger (January 10, 1996);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Mabel in a Tournament Final (March 4, 1996);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Heavyweight title defeating Mabel (March 16, 1996);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Tag Team titles w/Bill Dundee defeating The CyberPunks (PG-13) (May 18, 1996);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Tag Team titles w/Bill Dundee defeating Flex Kavana & Bart Sawyer (July 1, 1996);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Jeff Jarrett (July 24, 1996);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Sid Vicious (September 2, 1996);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating The Colorado Kid (November 16, 1996);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating Tank (March 22, 1997);
USWA (United States Wrestling Association) Unified Heavyweight title defeating King Reginald (Reggie B. Fine) (April 27, 1997);
Power Pro Wrestling Tag Team title w/Bill Dundee defeating Kid Wikkid & Derrick King (April 17, 1999);
Maryland Championship Wrestling title defeating The Bruiser (November 2, 2001);
Čia 114 titulų ir čia dar vidutiniškos lygos įtrauktos (t.y. mini lygų nėra tokių kaip visokios iZW, new Mid-South ir pan.), manau, kad įtikimas skaičius titulų, nes esmė ta, kad kuo mažesnė lyga tuo daugiau diržų ji turi ir JAV yra keli šimtai lygų, taigi bent pusėje jų Lawleris yra palikęs savo žymę ir dar reikia padauginti iš kelių lygos titulų (tag-teamo titulus pridedant), tai manau visai realu - bet niekas deja nėra suskaičiavęs visų jo titulų, o juo labiau tų kurie iškovoti miesto lygio lygose, o jei pažūrėsite visokiausių mini lygų interneto puslapius ten daugybė senųjų žvaigždžių vaidenasi, o tų lygų matčų ir titulų statistika net interneto puslapyje nevedama, taigi niekas tiksliai nežino kiek titulų jis turėjo (juo labiau, kad mini lygos seniau neturėjo interneto puslapių ir kai kurios iš jų seniausiai mirusios).

[Fortaz]

xexe, vadinasi jis vienintelis pac NEBENT galetu zhinoti:)

[Bam]

E-Mail the King? jerlawler@aol.com (is oficialaus saito e-mailas)

[XEUS]

Bam, Mar 17 2006, 10:14 PM, pasakë:

E-Mail the King? jerlawler@aol.com (is oficialaus saito e-mailas)

Davai taip ir padarykit, tada bent jau žinosim tiesą

[Bam]

Ok, jau issiunciau, laukiu atsakymo, papastinsiu cia

[Doppelganger]

Norejau paklaust kiek * yra gave sie HIAC matchai:

HHH vs. K. Nash (Bad Blood)
SCSA vs. The Rock vs. Rikishi vs. Kurt Angle vs. HHH vs. The Undertaker (Armagedon atrodo)
The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar (No Way Out)
The Undertaker vs. Big Bossman (WM 15)
HHH vs. HBK (Bad Blood atrodo)

Na ir WM main event'as Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar

Dėkoju, Impaler.

[Lix]

Siaip yra vienas pasiulymas. Turbut visi tinges nueit ir ieskot koki ivertinima gavo matchai. Geriau tu pats nueik i http://www.furiousra...-bin/furious.pl ir ten rasi visu senu matchu ivertinimus

[`MalioK`]

Impaler, Mar 19 2006, 04:03 AM, pasakë:

Norejau paklaust kiek * yra gave sie HIAC matchai:

HHH vs. K. Nash (Bad Blood)
SCSA vs. The Rock vs. Rikishi vs. Kurt Angle vs. HHH vs. The Undertaker (Armagedon atrodo)
The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar (No Way OutNo Mercy)
The Undertaker vs. Big Bossman (WM 15)
HHH vs. HBK (Bad Blood atrodo)

Na ir WM main event'as Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar

Dėkoju, Impaler.

Gerai, as ne tingiu;)

Triple H vs. Kevin Nash **1/2
SCSA vs. Rock vs. Rikishi vs. Angle vs. HHH vs. Taker ***1/2
The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar ***1/2
The Undertaker vs. Big Bossman 1/2*
HHH vs. HBK ***3/4

Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle ****1/4

* Iverinimai pagal Arnold Furious

[Fortaz]

Under vs BoosMan Keith dave lygej Dud:D

[Doppelganger]

Dekoju `MalioK`. Taip ir galvojau kad UT vs Bossman bus niekor vertas, gerai kad neziurejau. Sheip HHH vs Nash iverrtinciau vos vos daugiau. Na o db ziuresiu HHH vs. HBK matchas beveik valanda eina o ivertinimas nemazas, jauciu bus geru vaizdu tuoj

[Fortaz]

Impaler, Mar 19 2006, 05:11 PM, pasakë:

Dekoju `MalioK`. Taip ir galvojau kad UT vs Bossman bus niekor vertas, gerai kad neziurejau. Sheip HHH vs Nash iverrtinciau vos vos daugiau. Na o db ziuresiu HHH vs. HBK matchas beveik valanda eina o ivertinimas nemazas, jauciu bus geru vaizdu tuoj

Tas matchas pertemptas... Susitiko du klique nariai, taj gavo maineventa valandos:D ten daug shliauzhiojimo...

[Doppelganger]

Kas tas klique? Beje tame psl, kazkodel neradau tu ***** tik vertinimo sistema ir ppv apzwalga. nu whatever. Dar beje klausimas kiek gawo * no way out foley vs. hhh?

[`MalioK`]

Impaler, Mar 19 2006, 06:04 PM, pasakë:

Kas tas klique? Beje tame psl, kazkodel neradau tu ***** tik vertinimo sistema ir ppv apzwalga. nu whatever. Dar beje klausimas kiek gawo * no way out foley vs. hhh?

The Clique (The Kliq) - grupuote, egzistavusi WWF'e 1990-uju viduryje, kuri turejo dominojancia bookinimo jega uzkulisiose. Kai kurie ja keike uz tai, uz tai kad jie nenorejo jobinti wrestleriams ne ieinantiems i Kliq. Nariai:

• Shawn Michaels (HBK)
  
• Kevin Nash (Diesel)
  
• Scott Hall (Razor Ramon)
  
• Paul Levesque (Triple H)
  
• Sean Waltman (X-Pac)

Sie penki buvo geriausiais draugais realiame gyvenime (ir iki siol palaiko risius). Laikui einant kai kurie kiti wrestleriai/es buvo artimi Kliq'ei (pvz. Chyna, Justin Credible), bet branduolis likdavo nekeiciamas.

[Fortaz]

Impaler, Mar 19 2006, 06:04 PM, pasakë:

Kas tas klique? Beje tame psl, kazkodel neradau tu ***** tik vertinimo sistema ir ppv apzwalga. nu whatever. Dar beje klausimas kiek gawo * no way out foley vs. hhh?

O tu atidzhiai zhek ir rasi:)
Clique - http://en.wikipedia....onal_wrestling)
HHH vs Foley (Cactus Jack tixlew) - http://www.furiousrage.com/cgi-bin/furious...ay%20Out%202000 (****1/2)
p.s. klausdamas apie kovu ivertinimus (na tikiuosi nebeklausi, bent jo to, ka Furious yra savo psl ivertines) parashyk visada metus - taip lengviau surasti netinginiaujantiems.

[Fortaz]

Raiden, Mar 19 2006, 06:34 PM, pasakë:

Labai noob klausimas:Kodel mire wcw ir kada (tiksliai) tai buvo?

Anglishkaj moki?
Jej taip, taj:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCW